- get land
- live on land
- go to beach'
2 acres of forest is large to me...
if you or anyone else want to go in on this, message me and @dinosaur
say what you can offer and what you want!
so, that's the plan then? just buy all the tiny lots until it's a freak swarm of #butts all over #spiderfarm?
i'm keen to learn more about what pitching in could look like. i'd seriously consider pitching in here. when i first heard of lots near an existing #solarpunk space, i was quite excited by the possibility.
We've been seeing rats lately. For the past 3 days, Tux has caught at least one rat every day and 3 days ago she may have caught 2 rats.
I think maybe we are seeing more rats around because it's winter and guava season is over, so they must be getting hungry. They've been getting into the garden some and there's been some evidence of them on the kitchen table.
@mikey i spoke with the agent just now. they are asking $39k. the lot is on a ridge so there is less flooding, and it has possibility of ocean view if you build on it.
i'm keen to pitch in on this if others are.
@cel are there any details of the sale, asking price, etc?
another lot is for sale, 3 lots down from spider farm, on the other side of one of our neighbors place.
thanks @jeremai. the weather is beautiful
Sending E komo mai to Cel and blessings to the most excellent weather.
Merry Merry Christmas brothers and sister M :-)
notice the table linked on the energymatters site, they are saying 25% is 12.0v and 50% is 12.30v which is vastly different to the solar-electric table! ouch!
I guess I am a bit more conservative in this regard, I hope to get a decade from my batteries. however I think you're not charging them enough? because even though rest voltage is going to 12.7 for you, the charge voltage needs to reach 14v
In this mode, the battery is charged with a fixed charging voltage until the terminal voltage reaches 2.40 to 2.45 volts per cell (14.4 to 14.7 volts for a 12-volt battery) at 20° C. The battery is then held at this voltage until the charging current drops to a value of 0.01 x C amps (where C is the battery's amp-hour rating). At this point, the battery is fully charged and you must either stop the charging or switch to the float-charging mode. Continual charging in the fast charge mode will overheat the battery and damage it. Do not let the battery voltage exceed 2.45 volts per cell or allow the charge current to exceed 0.20 x C amps.
In this mode, the battery is connected to a constant voltage source of 2.25 to 2.30 volts per cell (13.5 to 13.8 volts for a 12-volt battery) at 20° C. Provided that the charging source is regulated at the proper float voltage, the battery will establish its own current level and will be maintained in a fully charged condition. Gel cell batteries can be left in the float charge mode for extended periods of time without damage. This mode is often used to maintain gel cell batteries used in backup power applications.
so if you don't charge it enough to get to
full and back to
float, you're destroying the battery! if you physically can't get to this amount during a day, you need more panels!
Here's a chart I found:
Batteries that are being charged will be higher - the voltages while under charge will not tell you anything, you have to let the battery sit for a while. For longest life, batteries should stay in the green zone. Occasional dips into the yellow are not harmful, but continual discharges to those levels will shorten battery life considerably.
This page gives a scenario for depth of discharge effect on a gel battery: https://www.energymatters.com.au/components/battery-voltage-discharge/
A Sonnenschein Solar Bloc 100 AH Gel Battery discharged to a depth of 70%, i.e. with only 30% or 30 AH (amp hours) remaining, will have a lifespan of around 1200 cycles, which is quite impressive. However, if it’s only discharged to 50%, the expected number of cycles skyrockets to around 1700! If a cycle is a day, that adds over 1.25 years to the life of the battery.
i don't know your setup, but don't you have to get deep cycles up to 14.2--14.4v to consider it 'full'? i.e. it seems you're damaging your batteries by consistently running them below 12v - I consider 12.4 to be 'empty/do not use unless emergency' on mine. at 12.0 i'd be running a generator/alternator, and freaking out at the damage.
Much lower voltage and darker today with light to medium rain all day. We're already down to 11.9/12.0 at 18:00.
we replaced the aluminum wires on our battery terminals with 4/0 copper welding cable and it helped a lot. we can run the drill press now. thinking about doubling up the cables to every terminal.
The voltage has been pretty good tonight! We kept running both laptops until 21:50 and it never got below 12.0. It's back at 12.1 with one laptop running now. I put some washers on the battery terminals on Sunday and I think that helped a lot. Today while the batteries were charging the highest voltage I saw was perhaps only 12.8 or 13.0 and a lot of ~12.5 even in the middle of the day. Tomorrow I might double up some of the wires to reduce the resistance further. #solar #offgrid
Light rain and darkness today. We didn't get much of a charge, but the batteries are at 12.1v at 18:30 with both laptops running. Our truck's right front tire blew out while leaving the driveway, so we'll need to get a tow into Pahoa to get a replacement before everything closes for xmas.
The plants are all looking really good! Dragonfruit from seed: that's really exciting - can't wait to see how they grow. I've found growing cacti from seed to be very rewarding. I was surprised how much care and moisture they need when young, at least the handful of species I've grown that way.
I bet the new shelves and extra kitchen worktops are a big help. I'm adjusting to a little kitchen right now and the lack of shelf space creates some interesting challenges.
Looks cute. Love the colors :)
I love tux updates!
Yesterday one of our neighbors stopped by with some free stuff to offer before he headed to the transfer station. We got a nice table and some shelves that we've put to use in our improved kitchen area.
I built this new shelf for the kitchen with some scrap wood.
The lower area is tidied up and again provides usable dry space for projects.
Our eggplants are doing well. I just harvested one and there are lots of tiny fruits. Some bugs have been eating the leaves but I haven't figured out which ones. Last time it was some caterpillars.
These seed-grown dragonfruit cactuses are coming along. It's much slower to grow them from seed compared to cuttings, but we had some seeds.
This is our biggest starfruit tree from seed. We have many smaller ones. There is a tree in Orchidland where we get starfruit for free.
Some lemon and oranges from seed. We have many, many citrus planted and some are finally sprouted. I read that a lemon tree grown from seed can start producing lemons in 1-2 years, but oranges take longer.
Each of our two banana trees have shoots now:
I've begun to make mulch beds everywhere. This one is seeded with eggplant.
Last night this giant mantis gave us a visit. They're pretty aggressive.
The house in the trees. You can see more of the improved flashing on top:
How much path-making with machetes do you do? If a lot, you might want to consider a scythe, like the grim reaper. That's what we use.
Today Marina and I went for a hike with Tux all the way to the back boundary of the lot. A few days ago we cleared out the path some more with gloves and machetes. We pulled up most of the guinea grass from along the trail which is very sharp and will cut up your skin if you brush against it. I also hacked down a bunch of bushes in the way and diverted the trail so that it's completely inside the boundary instead of occasionally meandering into the adjacent lot.
We've been training the cat to follow us on hikes, and she has really gotten the hang of it.
This is the tree that marks the approximate location of the southeast corner. Given the way that we measured back this far in ~4-9m increments, the lot probably extends past this point perhaps another 10 or 20 meters.
Here is Marina and Tux in the far back of the lot. Tux followed us the whole way!
Behind the southeast bounding tree is a hill. I hiked up here and Tux followed me! Then she wandered around a bit on her own but came back down once I had hiked down. This is the top:
And this is the view!
I also spotted a white post from the top of the hill that seems to be a property marker, so I think our estimate of the distance is partly corroborated.
Marina looking up at me from the base of the hill:
Despite new parts of the trail being only a few days old, the pigs have already started to use it:
We hiked back with Tux, who is much faster, racing and leaping, back to the house than heading out into the unknown.
I also had to tie down the stays on the awning several times much more tightly. The posts are now anchored to some bushes which have quite strong roots. I put up the tent again but a gust of wind took it out and I haven't gotten around to fixing it again. Our gazebo also flew up a ways and caught on an ohi'a so we lowered it and I weighed it down with a rock.
Yesterday we had some heavy winds from the north, sustained at 50 km/h with gusts of 72 km/h.
This caused some of our flashing to buck up. This photo only shows one of the pieces up, but there were more pieces that bucked up in the wind throughout the day. I bent them back down when they popped up but they wouldn't stay down.
Marina and I took the two lengths of flashing down to put in more wood tites.
Then Marina had to run some errands and I stayed to look after the house. Before she left we put both lengths of flashing back up on the house but while she was gone the pieces were still getting blown to fold upward. I took both lengths down myself and added two extra 2x4s to weigh down both sides. I screwed wood tites into the new boards to connect them to the flashing and managed to install one of the lengths of the much heavier flashing myself.
I tied down the new length of flashing which wasn't even rattling as it took strong northernly gusts. Just as I was getting ready to install the second length, Marina got back from town and we put up the second length together.
Marina came back from town with some spray foam, which I used to seal up some of the cracks in the new roof configuration. It luckily didn't rain yesterday but it hasn't rained today either, so we'll have to wait and see if there are any leaks.
Origin and evolution of carnivorism in the Ascomycota
I just read this paper last night and it's super fascinating! The authors were trying to figure out a) when carnivorous fungi diverged, and b) if major developments in the evolution of carnivorism in fungi show a causal relationship with major extinction events. A brief summary:
Carnivorism is one of the basic life strategies of fungi. Carnivorous fungi possess the ability to trap and digest their prey by using sophisticated trapping devices - both active (snares) and passive (sticky pads). Molecular clock calibration based on two fossil records revealed that fungal carnivorism diverged from saprophytism about 419 Mya, which was after the origin of nematodes about 550–600 Mya. That means fungi have been hunting animals for approximately 420 million years!
What are you learning?
Having lessons at the spider farm up high and cool.
Nematodes can effectively regulate bacterial population and community composition — they may eat up to 5,000 bacteria per minute. Also, nematodes can play an important role in the nitrogen cycle by way of nitrogen mineralization.
One group of carnivorous fungi, the nematophagous fungi, are predators of soil nematodes. They set enticements for the nematodes in the form of lassos or adhesive structures.
Sounds like a job for some #myco ?
These nematodes burrow through your intestines into your blood stream and then hang out in your brain until they die. There are other kinds of nematodes that attack the root structures of plants and cause them to wilt and die.
poor nematodes ... I hear some of them are really important for vibrant soil ecology. (basing my science on Kim Stanely Robinson's Mars Trilogy terraforming...)
Have you eaten Cacao flesh? It's pretty tasty.
The slugs go in a jar with salt because 80% of slugs harbor angiostrongylus cantenosis nematodes (rat lungworm).
are these the evil disease harbinger-type slugs?
Are you pickling slugs or euthenising them? (or both)
2 slugs deposited into the slug jar tonight, both in the area near our kitchen. It's been raining all day.
At the monthly Orchidland farmers market, we ran a little solar demo showing how to run a small DC solar system with a boost-buck converter. We had planned to use one of our bigger panels, but the truck is in the shop right now, so we brought parts that we could carry in our backpacks. People were pretty into this demo, and had a lot of questions about how to run electronics directly off DC instead of going through an inverter.
We also got a large green papaya and two cacao pods:
And one of our neighbors gave us this 90W panel to use for wifi mesh prototyping purposes.
This is what the green papaya looks like inside. @marina is shredding it in the grater right now.
Our neighbors are up to some really cool stuff! Some of our neighbors operate a dairy farm and are 100% self-sufficient for food after only 2 years. People grow a lot of food here and are involved in all kinds of agricultural and energy self-sufficiency projects.
i see wizardz in the cloudz.
if that's a photo that's breathtaking
breadfruit! what a truly marvelous tree!
@x this is the latest update
"We'll save some for @cel to plant on the new lot and .."
Wow, I didn't know you guys ended up getting the land that was for sale. :) Congrats!!
And by the way, I enjoy reading the #spider-farm reports. And I happy for you all there, enjoying life. :)
planting ulu trees
Today @marina and I went with one of our neighbor-friends to prune an ulu tree at the lot of one of our other neighbors on 40th street, also in Orchidland. Ulu trees send up shoots from the roots of established trees that become new trees. Pruning mature trees of shoots allows the tree to produce more fruit.
We snapped the shoots off the roots with machete and shovel. We hosed the shoots down to avoid transporting fire ants, our neighbor took a few shoots, and we brought the rest back to #spider-farm. I planted 18 of them around the lot and we have 15 more in 4 cloth bags packed with cinders. We'll save some for @cel to plant on the new lot and give some away at the Orchidland farmers market this Saturday.
This was the biggest cutting. I also cut some guava down to make a stand to keep this one upright:
Loose ulu cuttings before packing them in cinders:
Interesting perspective. Your location can be given numbers or names as soon as you disclose it.
If you don't disclose it you don't have an address that is known.
I'm not sure what it means to devalue local knowledge.
I think it's an awesome thing to make labor more easily replaceable.
It's not an awesome thing to not give people money.
I've seen a lot of underprivileged people who would love to have freedom to pursuit their passions and learn and express themselves rather then doing more crazy shifts of hard work to survive.
spider farm neighbor lot acquisition
previous: %bvG/Emw.... @arj asked for an update: %aE8UYHW...
We have agreed on a price with the seller and are going into contract soon. Message me, @mikey and @rhodey if you would like to contribute.
@juul I picked it because people on those sites reported using it successfully for this purpose.
e.g. on the reddit thread linked in %5YCfI6Z...:
[...] The LTE network is not locked down. It is the firmware on the device that prevents it from working. Not every device has that limitation, but nearly all do. The MC7455 is one of the exceptions.
Perhaps there are better alternatives...
Could you tell me why you're using the MC7455? It seems very expensive. Are there no cheaper 4G LTE cards for U.S. frequencies with Linux support or is this one just especially good?
We're going to pick up some ulu trees on Thursday from one of our neighbors. Today I also started working on bicycle trailer version 2 using some wheels from one of mikola's old bicycles and some scrap lumber. Hopefully by Saturday I'll have a functional bicycle trailer I can use to haul some solar panels and charge controllers over to the community lot for the monthly farmers market to have a functional prototype #offgrid solar demo which we have already signed up to present. If I finish that project in time I might also be able to get the second iteration of a solar cooker working.
@testdude2 here are some relevant messages: %kcmgLpb... %9jN5qpC... %u2pHQsk... %DSAV5vV... %crTjUAB...
@ansuz you are thinking of secure database games
Indeed, lava is a fact of life in hawaii - but, hawai'iians know a lot about lava and have skills for safely interacting with lava.
horizontal streets in downtown seattle are mostly in alphabetical order, and also named after trees, while vertical streets are numbers that decrease until you get to south seattle.
The whole conversation is fascinating and I love this detail :)
We're in lava zone 3
Having never seen lava in person in my life, categorizing neighbourhoods by their likelihood to get covered in lava (if I understand that correctly) seems completely alien.
The 3 word address thing reminds me of of one of @dominic's talks. I don't remember which one, but it featured a bit about proquint.
The scuttleverse is the only medium I use where a post about decluttering and running leads to talking about lava and coordinate systems. Pretty neat!
@nichoth We don't have an address. Many lots only have a TMK (tax map key) number because you have to pull permits to get a street address.
Most of this subdivision was last covered in lava 300 years ago. We're in lava zone 3. Downtown Pahoa (not so far away) is in lava zone 1 and lava covered a grave yard and almost took out the transfer station in 2015. Kalapana was covered in lava in the 1990s and every few years a house gets taken out by a breakout.
@serapath This is pretty interesting. Watching the talk, it made my legibility radar get worried, a subject I've run into on ssb. Because what if you want to have no address? Also, there is the funny way that this system makes addressing easier for humans with smartphones, but impossible for everyone else. Having worked as a delivery person, I have to say it is incredibly satisfying to discover the idiosyncrasies and underlying logic and history of a city grid. Like the way that block numbers go incrementally in one direction, so that you can know the number of blocks between you and other given address number. Or how horizontal streets in downtown seattle are mostly in alphabetical order, and also named after trees, while vertical streets are numbers that decrease until you get to south seattle. Or how san francisco is complete chaos, with just a jumble of names and diagonal intersections everywhere. Viewed this way, easier mapping techniques are a way of devaluing local knowledge, making your labor more easily replaceable.
Dang. Better for a bike ride then. I was guesstimating you were a bit closer to the coast there.
Aren't you guys really close / in the path of active volcano with recent lava flow? worried face
I just stumbled upon a TED talk video, where somebody divided the earth into billions of 3 squaremeter chunks and named them with a unique combination of 3 letter words and also translated it already in 14 more languages.
At least it's new to me. Probably you know it already, but just in case - wanted to mention it. Its fascinating to me.
@noffle It's google maps. You can right click and there is a menu with a measurement tool. I'm certainly going to be lifting this feature for peermaps. Make sure to click the scale in the lower right to switch the units to metric.
This looks amazing. I couldn't really imagine following the first pictures how this could ever evolve, but it really starts too look really cozy. How expensive is it time wise and all the money spent so far?
Do you have contracts with service providers regarding the internet or anything else?
And was there a lot of bureaucracy involved or maybe still is?
What would it take to repeat this in Hawaii or somewhere else?
Is it even possible in Hawaii if you are not a US citizen?
@substack What program did you use to create that map with the distance markers?
Running to the ocean is about 27km round trip and 150m of elevation change. Going that far, the timing matters because it's too hot most of the day to run very far and running that distance would take a while. It would have to be a rainy day, but even then I don't think I would have enough energy to do a trip that far without packing snacks.
yay! hi friends ^_^
you're inspiring me to get back into running. feels so good mm endorphins
if you run to the coast and back, isn't that about 15km?
++ refreshing mid-run toe dips in the sea ~!~
Cleaning up today. We packed away some unused items and moved things around a little.
I resoldered the connections on the boost buck converter on our speakers and put the circuit board in a pvc housing I got at the hardware store for $0.67. Now all the components of the audio system are in a box instead of strewn about on the floor but the knobs are accessible.
It feels nice to have clutter stowed away.
Today I planted some eggplant seeds in two of the four tires I filled with cinders and moss yesterday. Eggplants do well here but caterpillers and some tiny pinkish white bugs love to eat the leaves so they require some attention.
I also went #running. This was not as far as I thought it was so next time I think I'll run all the way along 37th into Ainaloa.
How the heck? That's amazing.
What is spider farm?
Those little ones will set up camp anywhere. We had them living underneath jars of olive oil in our cupboards in one house. Then one day someone moved the jar, and they all went running away, carrying their eggs with them.
We've had our biggest storm last night in 7.7 months of spider farm. It was windy but sunny during the day and I tied down some of the flashing that was rattling around which held during some very strong gusts during the night. The Ohi'a trees were bending sideways at night but I didn't find any fallen trees this morning. The heavy rains are nothing new but the rain fell much more sideways than usual.
Yesterday one of our neighbors came over to hang out. We learned more about the situation with the Orchidland board (our neighbor is a member of the "good" board that actually fixes the roads and organizes events) and we talked about what kinds of things the planned but unbuilt community center on the community lot could host and it sounds like pretty much everything I want out of a hackerspace.
We've entered the wet season and the trade winds are blowing. Here's a picture I took at the Maku'u shoreline last week on a breezy day:
We got these solar lights in the mail yesterday. The post office had this package since October 18 (Wednesday) but when I went to pick it up on Friday (October 20) they didn't find them. #generaldelivery problems. These lights line the trail from the house to the composting toilet to the tent.
This is our cat being a goof:
And this is the Kumara that @Dominic bought when he visited. For comparison, look at the picture from just 2 weeks ago!
Marina bought some more kumara at the farm stand in Kea'au which has moved to the parking lot by the gas station because they are tearing the old area down to make a drugstore. The shipman estate owns the whole town of Kea'au and decides whatever it wants unilaterally. I planted some more kumara in a second tire. It seems like kumara does really well here and is very easy to grow.
Now that those packages are delivered, we've now got all the necessary components to build a USB power array up to some ridiculous number of watts with however many sockets, maybe 10 or 15.
Tonight there's quite a storm passing through. We don't get much lightning here but tonight there is a flash of light every 10 seconds or so. Some of the strikes are fairly close and the thunder can be quite loud.
Oh that's actually pretty decent!
@juul thanks for the tip. Maybe i'll try getting an adapter to bypass the coaxial cable. The antenna has a little cable and the router + modem could probably be water-proofed (right now the whole setup is under the roof).
I was seeing peak 1.3MB/s doing
wget -O /dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip just now.
Very nice! What kinds of speeds are you getting?
Also, maybe you already know but even good coaxial cable has a fair amount of loss so if you want an even better signal you should put the digital stuff right at the end of the antenna for the shortest possible coax run and then run signals digitally where they need to go.